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By: coach

coach — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:50:25 +0000

Great article - while I have signed up for Agloco this gives me pause and I will do more thinking before taking it any further. It is good to see that some people are capable of writing a balanced opinion which informs about the downside of something many are promoting.

By: SiteLogic

SiteLogic — Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:40:36 +0000

Yes, it does have a downside in my opinion, that isnt to say some people wont make money from it (those with large networks).

If you can build a network and dont mind recommending the product then give it a go, its not for me though.

By: Frank

Frank — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:36:03 +0000

I agree with coach, it’s nice to see balanced opinion rather than one that is biased because of the possible networking opportunity. People like John Chow will probably make a mint in the first six months (good on him if he can work it that way) and then the reality of the system will start to reveal itself and the advertisers will start to demand more for their money. Your article got me thinking about it and it’s a bit like DIGG traffic. It seems really positive at first but after the initial buzz has worn off you realize that the traffic isn’t necessarily the kind that you want. I’ve heard stories of 5000 visitors and not one ad click.

I like your arguments and it will be interesting to see if Agloco will still be as popular six months after it launches the toolbar.

By: SiteLogic

SiteLogic — Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:58:02 +0000

Yeah, Im not taking anything away from John, he is in a perfect position to capitalise on Agloco. He is an entrepreneur and is always looking for an opportunity, and for someone in a position to build a large network (like John)it could work very well…. but I would be very surprised if he himself spent much time using the toolbar….

There are a lot of other people caught up in the hype without the means to build a network so easily. These people none the less continue singing along to the Agloco tune, and are going to do a lot of donkey work for very little return (IMO).

By: Armen

Armen — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:48:29 +0000

Interesting read amidst all the hype. I have stayed away from signing up for a long time, and after reading this I think it shall remain that way.

By: Zaib Kaleem

Zaib Kaleem — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 02:56:40 +0000

Very good post…info from htmk.com about Agloco not sharing revenue with site owners is huge gap in Agloco business model. There should be a way for Agloco to create a system for content publishers to share revenue.

By: SiteLogic

SiteLogic — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:40:52 +0000

I wouldnt say its a gap, sharing revenue with browsers IS their business model.

They use this as an incentive to install the toolbar and click on adds.

This incentive will be a problem for advertisers who want targeted traffic, not randon clcks.

On another note, I have seen anti Microsoft sites that deliberately write their pages in a way that IE cannot render, if it is possible to detect the Agloco bar then I think there will be some sites that will try to do something similar with Agloco.

By: SiteLogic

SiteLogic — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:42:00 +0000

I wont be having anything to do with it, there is no way I would recommend a product like this to my friends or family, and on that basis would not recommend it to anyone else either

By: Chong Vue

Chong Vue — Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:20:04 +0000

HAHAHAHA. If we are surfing on a blog or a website, of course the webmasters are still going to receive the cash they always generate. If the webmasters don’t like the idea, I would say that we did not get any of the profit the webmasters themselves made And now, if we work hard on getting referrals, it helps us. Everybody has to work for their share. Is it wrong for us regular surfers to make an effort to get something back for what we do? If you guys think Agloco won’t work…I would say that the ads about making money on your blogs and websites will not be any better. I am sure some of you are even linking scams on your blogs and websites, intentionally or not. We shall see what happens.

By: SiteLogic

SiteLogic — Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:48:01 +0000

Hi Chong,

If you are a surfer and do not run a blog then there is no conflict, if you have a site and also push Agloco, then there is a conflict.

You are right about the adds on sites, we dont control where they lead…

The fact is though, Agloco IS a pyramid scheme, it is geared to those at the top making a lot from those at the bottom, and this is not a sustainable model, pyramid schemes always fail once the initial period of expansion reaches an end.

If you want to work for Agloco on this then do it, but I dont think it will last, I dont think advertisers will like it… its all spin and hot air as far as I am concerned, but you are right, we shall soon see

By: Chong Vue

Chong Vue — Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:59:05 +0000

Alright. I am going to discuss an idea that has been in my head for a while now. And it is an idea that deems Agloco shall be sustainable. Alright, it is like this. Pretend there was no Agloco, we would still be surfing, as according to our surfing habit. But if Agloco came along, there is only more to our surfing online. I learned in economics class that there is such a concept as being indifferent to something Who will be on the bottom? Those people who surf the net all the time but do not really care if they get paid or not, it makes no difference to them, so if we have them at the bottom, their indifference on this should solidify the bottom base. I have also learned that a Pyramid Scheme involves initial monetal investment, and also that the people on the top does not necessarily make more than the people they recruit - IT IS A MYTH, EVEN A FALSE IDEA THAT PEOPLE WHO GET RECRUITED WILL NOT MAKE AS MUCH AS THE PERSON WHO RECRUITED HIM/HER. Indeed, we shall see what happens

By: SiteLogic

SiteLogic — Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:54:43 +0000

“Those people who surf the net all the time but do not really care if they get paid or not, it makes no difference to them”

This is where you are wrong, it makes a big difference to them, they have to use nasty software, and to get any benefit from that nasty software they have to CHANGE THEIR SURFING HABBITS.

“IT IS A MYTH, EVEN A FALSE IDEA THAT PEOPLE WHO GET RECRUITED WILL NOT MAKE AS MUCH AS THE PERSON WHO RECRUITED HIM/HER”

In a legitimate company perhaps, but this is a PYRAMID SCHEME engineered to keep the people at the top at the top, and the people at the bottom at the bottom.

By: Chong Vue

Chong Vue — Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:59:59 +0000

Heh, I already sense that this site is biased. Calling Agloco’s viewbar “nasty”? Hahaha. I’m sure to laugh and share this one, lols. But it is okay. At least they are doing something to help us, and this site? :D. LOL. I think the concept of pyramid scheme applies to many marketing things. If you join late on anything, your chances of success and beating the people/companies that came before you is much greater.

By: Chong Vue

Chong Vue — Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:01:14 +0000

much less greater*

By: siteLogic

siteLogic — Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:34:41 +0000

Ok that’s a fair point I havent seen the toolbar yet so it could be very good. But I have never seen one of these things that was nice, we’ll have to wait and see

Biased, Hmm I’m trying to keep an open mind on this, I suppose I have been more ‘anti’ as there is so much hype around this, a lot of people don’t seem to have thought too much about it, you have made some reasonable points though.

Joining something late is never as good as joining early, however, with a sustainable business model this is less of a risk joining late, in my opinion this is not a sustainable model.

With pyramid schemes it is very difficult to get in early, and if you don’t then forget it as often you will lose out.

What are they doing to help you? It is the network builders who are spending time and money promoting the service, and Agloco, what have they done in return, promised some shares the value of which no-one knows. Promised a toolbar no-one has seen. At the moment I see a lot of people doing things for Agloco, but not nearly enough coming back the other way.

I could be wrong about this, the first test will be the release of the toolbar in a few weeks, if that go’s well and people like it then it could work…

As for this site helping you, if you had a website of your own you would have got a backlink to it for being one of the top commentors

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